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subparcrap (2 hours ago) Show Hide
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anarchist Antichrist Hmm British some sort of suggestion problem going on there

That's you you get before television was invented
oldhacks (2 hours ago) Show Hide
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before tv it was the radio. before the radio it was the news papers and telegraphs. before the news papers it was by town crier. before town crier it was by blunt sword.
oldhacks (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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HAHA. christ they did nothing BUT vote. no comment no nothing. they did nothing BUT vote. yet they're against voting.... makes NO FUCKING SENSE!!!!
KagarBeardtooth (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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I think the main problem between you and anarchists is with the terminology. You define anarchy differently than they do.

Your anarchy is being a rebel without a cause; their anarchy is existing without the state.

By your definition, none of them are anarchists.
oldhacks (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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they're just trendies talking shit. none of them have ever lived out a day of anarchy in their life. and here I am from the inside trying to explain the REALITY of the situation and they all scoff because I'm not trying to be a part of their gay ass little club. in other words I'm approaching them in an anarchist fashion and because I refuse to follow THEIR orders they're trying to banish me.

doing everything I'm trying to get them to do. except against me. its fucking bizarro world
overmind25 (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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Exactly. I am opposed to this
an aggressive violent monopoly or near monopoly of certain services over land not tied to labor or over individuals who have not consented which, by the general public conception, does so in a manner not considered to be legitimate for other groups or individuals to engage in.
oldhacks (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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you're opposed to decision making? you're opposed to collective wisdom? you're against all given societies that live culturally as societies to have the ability to have a mandated public discussion about the issues they may be dealing with? all having a vote is is coming to an agreement. if you disagree then you can always do whatever work it takes to get whatever law you're against Reversed. no law is concrete. the constitution is a living document written to be changed whenever need be.
overmind25 (43 minutes ago) Show Hide
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Yes I am against institutionalizing and sanctioning some majority rule over items and land that is not theirs and people who do not consent. What needs to be decided upon is how property is acquired legitimately and once it is acquired through a voluntary process or homesteading then it is that person/persons. In some sense majorities get what they want and in some sense they do not.
oldhacks (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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whats the big dream behind living without a state?

more money? more freedom? whats the gimmick? power exists within societies regardless of who controls it. the majority of people will get their way whether we make it official or not. so why not just explore the possibilities that exist with giving said population the power to govern themselves? someones/thing is going to take control. its better when the people control themselves and dont allow minorities to control them.
overmind25 (40 minutes ago) Show Hide
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I am advocating individuals taking control over what is theirs and themselves. They can form organizations for mutual protection of their liberty and to provide services public or private that they wish. If a certain number of people what to put themselves and their land under the jurisdiction of a direct democracy then they may do so. If not then fine. More freedom.
oldhacks (20 minutes ago) Show Hide
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you're just being selfish then. its immature.

10 people.
4 people have enough medicine for all 10
6 people say "hey Share the medicine"
the minority says "fuck you"
the 6 people say "no Fuck you"

and because they out number them they get their medicine. but they share with the 4 that had it at first to show them that they just wanted the right thing to be done. to keep them from wanting to get revenge.
overmind25 (14 minutes ago) Show Hide
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I have no idea what you mean by selfish. I do not demonize the self as I said in my reply to you. It is "selfish" to believe you are entitled to other items people have produced or acquired through voluntary trade without their consent.
overmind25 (13 minutes ago) Show Hide
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Those people could either give the medicine to them charging them nothing for something, charge them some fee or task for the medicine, or could refuse to see or give them the medicine because they may need it later or want to keep it. Those other six need to go look to buy the medicine from someone else or produce themselves depending on what it is.

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overmind25 (13 minutes ago) Show Hide
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*to sell or give them
oldhacks (6 minutes ago) Show Hide
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charging them?

thats what we have now man. '

I''m trying to be cool here man cuz we've known each other on this stupid website for quite a while but if you were anyone else I'd be barking your head off for saying something like that.

charge them what? money? where does money come from? or do they have shells to trade. magic shells and beans. are gonna go all the way back to complete savagery before people start to consider the power of acting as a unit? form an army. take shit over.
oldhacks (1 minute ago) Show Hide
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you're breaking from the terms. ten people and medicine. thats all there is here. no money no countries no commies. no nothing.

just ten people and medicine. nothing more. nothing less.

there's medicine in this world. and the 6 people aren't getting it because of the idea of "cost".
oldhacks (3 minutes ago) Show Hide
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haha. now you dont know what the meaning of the word selfish is anymore? you Have lost your mind. sheesh. Get off the stefbot train man. it's a dead end road!

the word selfish is when someone acts in their own interest before anyone elses. thats the meaning of the word. so you'd sit there and watch all six of them die if they didn't have anything in trade?
overmind25 (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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Neat 5 stars.
oldhacks (1 hour ago) Show Hide
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haha. I'm with you guys. I just have a different map.