I thought Obama did OK. It was really pissing me off when he kept saying "John you're absolutely right..." like 5 fucking times. THATS NOT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SAY! anyways I'm glad they talked economy on what was supposed to be a format on War and more War. So John didn't even really get to shine. I'm sure Obama has an uppercut that he's holding back for that moment when John shows real weakness. I want Obama to just clobber the mother fucker though. he's gotta win over those stupid independents though that are standing on the fence. the independent voters control this country.